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    OK... Firstly, apologies to everyone who disagrees with me.
    Secondly, Apologies to anyone who owns, reguarly uses or loves Camcorders.

    I went to an electrical shop the other day, with the purpose to buy a Mini-DV Camera.

    After about nearly 2 hours going through the settings, doing some filming in the shop, and generally making the sales bloke work hard.
    I picked my camcorder from 2 (It was a Panasonic Erm... DB8?), went to the counter and then was refused credit.

    On my way home, I bumped into some old work colleagues, who were filming some interviews for TV. (Albeit Local TV...).
    The cameraman let me take the camera and do some quick filming. Suddenly I felt much happier with the (Sony DSR300P) TV camera than I ever did with any of the camcorders I looked at in the shop.

    Moral of the story? I prefer proper, professional cameras over "Camcorders" ANY day!

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    Hi,

    The Pro camera you were handling is still c**P, it can only produce 4:3 pictures I think you will require the 500 series Sony to be able to achieve 16:9 wide screen footage.

    Which is what most broadcasters require these days.

    I'll be happy if some tells me I'm wrong.

    The 300 series Sony is ?4,500.00 and the 500 Series will set you back over ?8,000.00.

    However, it's amazing what you can get for under a grand.

    Now what's your credit limit?

    Jim Bird.


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    indeed, the difference between pro and consumer equipment is narrowing all the time.

    my panny DX110 cost around 1200UKP as an end-of-line sale, and I'm well happy with what it can do -- it may have small ccd's and shitty optics and a naff minijack for audio ... but after all's said and done I'm hard pressed to tell the difference between my lowly camcorder and a 20,000UKP monster ....

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    I think you guys missed the point completely...

    What I was trying to say was that I feel far happier / more comfertable with a big, heavy, shoulder-mounted, professional camera, than a little, flimsy, lightweight, easy to lose camcorder.

    If I wet to a shoot with the latter,
    A. I don't think anyone would take me seriously, and
    B. I couldn't take myself seriously.

    Yeah, I know the DSR300 is just under 5k UK, but I would much rather spend the money on decent equipment. (If I had the money!)


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    Hi,

    I ask how can you film a fly on the wall Doc with a 30 (wo)man production team.

    Low budget filming; with consumer unobtrusive cameras is an art in its self.

    We are slowly beginning to learn there is a lot of benefit to using consumer type products, which don't intrude and intimidate the subjects being filmed.

    The results are more natural looking footage, with a much less, O dear I'm being filmed type of footage.

    Jim Bird.


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    Hi,

    I would also like to add, if you check out the Canon XM-1 (GL-1 US) you'll find it a small consumer camera, which can take great hand held footage while remaining unobtrusive.

    Add to it Canon wide-angle lens and the BeachTek XLR MIC adapter with external and you've got yourself a decent piece of kit at a decent price.

    Jim Bird.


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    ah -- but my panny can reach places other shoulder-mounted cannot reach, it's like the olden days where the camera can be mounted ANYWHERE ...

    worried about being taken seriously? don't be so fscking vain, next you'll be telling me you won't work without a 5000UKP tripod ...

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